1 00:00:10,310 --> 00:00:07,909 now the international space station by 2 00:00:12,150 --> 00:00:10,320 design is meant to involve scientists 3 00:00:14,629 --> 00:00:12,160 from all over the world in doing 4 00:00:17,029 --> 00:00:14,639 research on this unique asset 5 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:17,039 in the 15 years of continuous human 6 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:20,160 habitation of the station more than 1700 7 00:00:24,950 --> 00:00:21,920 experiments have been done by 8 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:24,960 researchers representing 83 different 9 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:26,080 countries 10 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:28,000 one of the organizations behind those 11 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:29,519 numbers is the center for the 12 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:32,800 advancement of science in space or cases 13 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:34,800 and this morning we're joined by dr 14 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:36,559 michael roberts the deputy chief 15 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:38,719 scientist at cases to learn more thanks 16 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:40,800 for joining us thank you man you can 17 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:42,559 push the button and we'll thank everyone 18 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:44,800 here to be here today 19 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:48,079 cases was chosen by nasa back in 2011 to 20 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:50,079 manage the international space station 21 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:51,920 national laboratory 22 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:53,520 quickly tell me what a national 23 00:00:58,389 --> 00:00:56,079 laboratory is but but how is cases 24 00:01:00,869 --> 00:00:58,399 working to fulfill that mission 25 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:00,879 so national laboratories are facilities 26 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:02,559 that are designed to support research 27 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:04,159 and technology development interests of 28 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:06,320 the united states there are several that 29 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:07,840 operate here on the ground but there's 30 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:09,680 only one that operates in low earth 31 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:11,200 orbit that's the international space 32 00:01:15,670 --> 00:01:12,799 station national lab 33 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:15,680 cases role in supporting that is that we 34 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:17,680 help to manage and provide access to 35 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:19,600 that national laboratory for any 36 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:22,240 us-based investigator that can benefit 37 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:24,560 from the unique environment of space 38 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:26,560 the i've checked the website your 39 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:28,400 website it says that cases is 40 00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:30,960 responsible for inciting the imagination 41 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:33,360 of entrepreneurs and scientists 42 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:35,360 while creating awareness of the national 43 00:01:39,030 --> 00:01:36,799 lab research 44 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,040 give us a couple of examples of how you 45 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:41,439 go about doing that certainly so one of 46 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,840 the goals in creating and designating 47 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:45,439 the us operating segment of the 48 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:46,799 international space station as a 49 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:49,840 national laboratory was to enable access 50 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,640 for new communities of users so nasa 51 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:54,479 obviously continues to support research 52 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:55,840 and technology development on the 53 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:58,320 station but cases has a portfolio which 54 00:02:01,429 --> 00:01:59,680 is slightly different than that of 55 00:02:03,910 --> 00:02:01,439 nasa's we seek out 56 00:02:05,590 --> 00:02:03,920 cust companies that have reasons for 57 00:02:07,270 --> 00:02:05,600 performing research in that unique 58 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:07,280 environment that can benefit product 59 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:08,479 development 60 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,080 we also support companies such as 61 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:12,000 pharmaceutical companies that utilize 62 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:13,680 the unique aspects of living in 63 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:15,040 microgravity 64 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:17,760 in addition to affecting the crew 65 00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:20,480 the life living in in that environment 66 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:22,879 also affects model organisms so there 67 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,560 are opportunities for pharmaceutical 68 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:26,640 companies to study drugs 69 00:02:31,030 --> 00:02:29,200 that combat can combat some of the 70 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:31,040 effects of living in space environments 71 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,200 such as muscle atrophy and bone mineral 72 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,599 density laws things that translate as 73 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:37,519 human diseases here on earth 74 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:39,760 to get you to expand on that that phrase 75 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:42,480 of model organisms we're talking about 76 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:44,560 organisms that are being used to stand 77 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,959 in for people absolutely right so there 78 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,120 are some types of experiments that 79 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:51,120 humans don't like to be test subjects 80 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:51,920 for 81 00:02:56,229 --> 00:02:53,680 and they're also organisms that have 82 00:02:58,949 --> 00:02:56,239 much faster life cycles than humans do 83 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,959 so that they can undergo a much longer 84 00:03:03,350 --> 00:03:01,200 term exposure to the microgravity 85 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:03,360 environment in terms of their life cycle 86 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:06,080 so we frequently use fruit flies worms 87 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:08,080 and things like that so that we can 88 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:11,200 learn about the effects of the life in 89 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:14,000 microgravity environment on the biology 90 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:16,080 of the system and those organisms 91 00:03:19,990 --> 00:03:17,519 although they're not extremely closely 92 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:20,000 related to humans they do have genes and 93 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:22,319 systems that behave in the same way 94 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:24,640 and you were mentioning some of the 95 00:03:29,270 --> 00:03:27,040 different kinds of organizations that 96 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,280 cases is working with a lot of that is 97 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:31,519 commercial businesses people who are 98 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:33,599 wanting to use the space station to 99 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:35,519 improve their products that's exactly 100 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,040 right so we 101 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:39,840 we approach a very uh broad swath of 102 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:41,920 interest in the united states 103 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:44,640 we work with companies who have products 104 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:46,319 and development or have interest in 105 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,000 fundamental research and technology 106 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,480 development utilizing both the shirt 107 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:52,560 sleeve environment inside the station as 108 00:03:57,350 --> 00:03:54,959 well as access to the external 109 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:57,360 environment outside the station we also 110 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,439 have in our portfolio 111 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:01,680 investigators who are sponsored by other 112 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:03,920 government agencies so department of 113 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:05,920 defense department of energy national 114 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:08,239 institutes of health a variety of other 115 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:09,840 government agencies who operate their 116 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:11,599 own national labs here in the united 117 00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:12,799 states 118 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:14,720 see the value in having access to the 119 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:16,560 space flight environment and they simply 120 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,400 can't recreate that environment in the 121 00:04:23,110 --> 00:04:20,160 national laboratories that they operate 122 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:23,120 here on the ground a part of cases job 123 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,040 is to help these people 124 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:27,440 physically get their stuff to space 125 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:29,840 right it is it is so 126 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,520 part of our mission is enabling that 127 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,440 access and we do that 128 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:35,919 by facilitating communication between 129 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,160 the researchers who are typically new to 130 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:39,840 space they're used to being able to do 131 00:04:42,390 --> 00:04:41,440 research in the laboratory down the 132 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,400 hallway 133 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:44,080 so we put them in contact with 134 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,320 implementation partners who can 135 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:48,320 describe for them and share their 136 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,880 experiences and how to do science in the 137 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,639 harshness of space if they're working 138 00:04:56,710 --> 00:04:55,040 outside the station or how to package 139 00:04:59,350 --> 00:04:56,720 their biology if they want to work 140 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,360 inside the station we also work closely 141 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:01,520 with the launch providers in order to 142 00:05:06,950 --> 00:05:04,800 maximize that access to the station 143 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:06,960 along with working with these companies 144 00:05:10,629 --> 00:05:08,560 and and the variety of different 145 00:05:13,110 --> 00:05:10,639 experiments there's an educational 146 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:13,120 outreach component of cases his mission 147 00:05:16,629 --> 00:05:15,039 too tell me about that there is pat and 148 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:16,639 that's one of the most exciting parts of 149 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:18,160 our mission so every principal 150 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:20,080 investigator that we bring on board 151 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,840 through cases to have access to that 152 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:23,199 national lab 153 00:05:28,390 --> 00:05:25,039 is also charged with helping us to 154 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,400 develop a stem mission stem mission so 155 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:30,240 we certainly recognize and acknowledge 156 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,000 the excitement of working in space and 157 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:34,560 that's a great great way to reach out to 158 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:36,720 a new community of investigators who may 159 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:38,400 be in kindergarten 160 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:40,639 elementary school high school or already 161 00:05:45,189 --> 00:05:42,479 working at a university 162 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:45,199 so we participate in a variety of formal 163 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:47,199 education programs such as the student 164 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,680 base space flight experiments program 165 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:51,199 we work with one of the commercial 166 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:53,360 providers nanoracks who has a very 167 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:55,520 robust education program for middle 168 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:57,360 school and high school level and then 169 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:59,280 again we also engage with the companies 170 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:01,039 the commercial entities that we bring on 171 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:03,440 board to help them develop and support a 172 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:05,280 stem mission because most of the 173 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,800 companies we work with are truly 174 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,560 interested not only in 175 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:10,479 improving the quality of the research 176 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:12,160 and technology development that's of 177 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:13,440 interest to them and their product 178 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:15,360 development they're also genuinely 179 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:18,720 interested in being able to reach out to 180 00:06:22,870 --> 00:06:20,720 the youth and show that there are 181 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:22,880 varieties of opportunities in that space 182 00:06:26,309 --> 00:06:24,639 environment for them as well 183 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:26,319 is it hard to get 184 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,800 these scientists or these businesses 185 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:31,199 interested in using the space station 186 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:32,960 it's really not that that first phone 187 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:35,039 call uh that first communication is 188 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:36,639 sometimes an interesting one because 189 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:38,800 some of the uh some of the customers 190 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:40,800 that we developed weren't aware that we 191 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:42,560 had an international space station or 192 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:44,639 that there was an opportunity for them 193 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:46,800 to have access to that environment but 194 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:48,000 once they understand what the 195 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:49,759 capabilities are and the investments 196 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:52,160 that we as a nation have made in 197 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,479 building that laboratory and 198 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:56,400 and completing it so that it can now 199 00:07:01,589 --> 00:06:59,120 operate truly as a national laboratory 200 00:07:03,749 --> 00:07:01,599 they become engaged very fast and 201 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:03,759 typically it starts as a slow burn and 202 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:06,319 then begins to grow to a big fire 203 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:08,240 once everyone in the company realizes 204 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:09,919 the opportunities that are available to 205 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:10,639 them 206 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,039 what's on the horizon for cases now 207 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:15,360 it's all very good so we're certainly 208 00:07:18,870 --> 00:07:16,960 i'm glad to be here with you today on 209 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:18,880 the anniversary of zaria you know it's 210 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:21,440 it's hard to imagine that only 17 years 211 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,639 ago the 212 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:24,479 the first shiny object that became the 213 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,240 international space station was launched 214 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:28,560 into space but the horizon i think is 215 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:30,800 very bright we're actively engaged with 216 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:32,240 a variety of companies and other 217 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:34,160 government agencies as well as academic 218 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:36,560 institutions there's a lot of interest 219 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,639 now in partnering across each of those 220 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:40,800 diverse communities to do science in the 221 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:43,360 international space station national lab 222 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:45,360 good luck and and thanks for bringing us 223 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:46,800 up to date on it thank you very much 224 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:49,120 matt dr michael roberts is the deputy 225 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:51,840 chief scientist for the uh for cases the